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AMERICAN STONEHENGE (1998)
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One of our last shows with Debbie Haliday was at a clubhouse in Orange County.  Debbie wore a hippie skirt and blouse.  Some thought she wanted to alienate the fashion conscious riot grrrls but I think it had more to do with her older sister who ran away to follow The Dead and wound up deep in an underworld of well armed hippie drug dealers. 

Debbie’s sister was so damaged she didn’t seem sane; you could tell someone great was lost in there.  In Ronnie’s song “L.A. River” the line “coats of a thousand screams” was by Debbie’s sister.  (You’ll hear “L.A.  River”, a song Keith Richards called marvelous, in the next section of the 100 Song March when we reach the DNA CD.)

Before the gig began, Debbie, fully clothed and smoking a strawberry bidi cigarette, got into the steaming jacuzzi out back.  Rain was falling.  She had painted her eyes heavily with black eyeliner which ran.   Usually charming, she was sarcastic and threatening.  She opened our set with an eerily minor a capella version of “You Are My Sunshine”. 

The only bright spot was the band that opened for us.  Two girls, a drummer and a guitarist, who played hilariously ironic and clunky versions of butt rock anthems by bands like Kiss.  The drummer was a kid named Erin McCarley. 

After Debbie left, Nick Romero of popular L.A. punk band The Limeys jumped our drum throne temporarily.  We played most often at The Impala in Little Tokyo, Los Angeles.  It had history going back to the roots of punk; its original Atomic Café sign was still out back.   There we focused on total improvisation, 100% freestyle including lyrics. 

We could usually count on two people being there almost every time.  One was an amazing multi-instrumentalist better known as the guitarist for the notorious eastside underground punk band The L.A. Times.  Troy Taroy will reappear later in the Hundred Song March when he joins Lucid Nation briefly for our bootleg CD Nonpoetic Rain: Live on KXLU. 

The other was that kid from the O.C., Erin McCarley.  When we dumped a bunch of zines in the hands of the graphic artist designing The Stillness of Over he chose a picture of Erin’s face for the disc.  

I met Erin online in a riot grrrl newsgroup.  She was the founder of the first and most active O.C. riot grrrl chapter.  Her zines had an international following but my favorite Erin art was her poster graphics: she quoted the stark contrast and imagery pioneered by Tinuviel and Kill Rock Stars but with more humor.

As Erin cooled on riot grrrl, she started organizing Sunday matinees at Koo’s Café in Santa Ana with peace punk promoter and Resist and Exist band member Jang Lee.  When Nick left it seemed natural for Erin to take over the drum throne.

Now instead of being surrounded by riot grrrls, we were surrounded by peace punks wearing ARA, Crass, and Reagan Youth patches on their black clothes.  The cassette demo with the lime green label and glitter stickers that used to be for sale in The Jabberjaw glass case was now being bought by Black Panthers at a zine table at Koo’s on a sunny spring afternoon. 

The peace punk scene at those matinees was so good it still makes me smile.  Peaceful, diverse, inspiring, everything you could want an underground to be.  Glimpses of utopia, so you know it is possible.

American Stonehenge was an ironic nod at Spinal Tap since we were already on drummer number three.  Also, as the skyline in the puddle on the back cover shows, there’s a very slight resemblance between Stonehenge and the Los Angeles skyline.



Our cover of the Bikini Kill classic hopefully captures a little of the inspiration they gave us.  They blazed a trail.  They changed thousands of lives.  Bikini Kill and Team Dresch were bright noisy lights in the silent night of girl rock.  For those who weren’t there it’s almost impossible to describe the atmosphere of liberation at those shows.   Females felt empowered to create bands and live out other visions. 

Every girl should sing her favorite Bikini Kill song with a band at least once.  Erin and I agreed we wanted to sing this one.  Pinky promise! 

PS there is a glitch like a skip in this recording; it’s not a faulty file or your player.  Riot grrrl means never having to record correctly!
[35] - Television (American Stonehenge)
Ronnie Pontiac: vocal and guitar
Tamra Spivey: bass and backing vocal
Erin McCarley: drums and scream

Putting this song first on American Stonehenge may not have been such a good idea.  The song was misinterpreted as a pop sell out.   Add Erin’s penchant for acoustic guitars and pensive Celtic moods and it seemed when Debbie left she took the experimental thunder with her. 

Ronnie wrote this threatening yet romantic song after encountering the book The Society of the Spectacle by Guy Debord.  It’s a Situationist love song! (Search “situationism” if you don’t know what it means, you’ll be glad you did.)  
[36] - Rattlesnake (American Stonehenge)
Tamra Spivey: vocal and guitar
Erin McCarley: drums
Ronnie Pontiac: bass and backing vocal

I wrote this song for a Food Not Bombs compilation to benefit the Dineh (Navaho) Save Big Mountain movement.  We played benefits for Ward Valley, too.  My great (I don’t know how many times) grandfather was a Cherokee chief on the Trail of Tears.  I own a fringe shirt made out of an American flag cut and sewn during the American Indian Movement’s occupation of Wounded Knee in 1973.  Smoke on that peace pipe, my cracker friends!

What a horrible year.  It began with the death of two of my friends.  Next was a virus that floored me for ten weeks.  Then an abortion.  I didn’t feel strong enough to attempt our national tour with Free Verse, the all girl Lawrence, Kansas hardcore band I had signed to my new label Brain Floss Records.  But I did it anyway.  Erin caught a cold right off and of course I got it.  I spent most of the tour sick in the back seat of the van. 

At the end of the tour Ronnie and I had to drive the minivan full of drums and amps from Vermont to Seattle.  We found ourselves in South Dakota on the Fourth of July.  In the morning I followed a trail of dandelions to a museum. 

While I wandered, the great granddaughter of Chief Red Cloud quietly wove a quill bracelet while conversing with Ronnie, then gave it to him along with a standing invitation to visit the reservation. 

That afternoon we visited Bear Butte where Chief Crazy Horse loved to meditate and pray.  We hadn’t realized there would be Sioux there, duh.  We were the only whiteys but no one bothered about us.  We climbed onto the butte and watched a thunderstorm play across the plains.  I left some of my hair as a prayer flag; and collected sage that fell out of a medicine man’s basket as I walked the path behind him.

That night we drove the freeway in the thunderstorm.  I’ve never seen anything like it.  Two thunderstorms were approaching each other and the lightning was flashing in vivid hues of blue and red.  It looked like we were driving right into the impact where the storms would meet but the freeway veered a little south. 

We slowed down in the pouring rain to watch the two storms collide on rolling grassy hills lit up green in the bright flashes.  Then I saw the sign.  The storms had met on the Little Big Horn.  It still gives me chills.

[37] - This is for all the nights you sent me driving home to an empty house full of people (American Stonehenge)
Erin McCarley: vocals, guitar and drums
Tamra Spivey: bass and vocal
Ronnie Pontiac: guitar and vocal

Erin was responsible for one of my favorite touring moments.  She pulled up at a red light in a dry city in Arkansas.  A horrendous brick monolith faced us. 
“What is that?” Erin asked, playing with her nose ring, which usually indicated trouble.
“A retirement home,” Ronnie read the sign.

Erin’s shout of “Satan” was so loud you could hear it echoing down the long flat blocks.  We all laughed so hard we almost forgot the twelve hour drive getting there.  Some of the kids who opened for us ended up in Olympia in a band called The Gossip.  Nathan, I’m glad you hoodwinked us into playing that show.
[38] - Chainletter (American Stonehenge)
Tamra Spivey: vocal and guitar
Erin McCarley: drums
Ronnie Pontiac: bass

Was I singing to riot grrrl or to Debbie or to anonymous snipers on message boards?  I was singing to them all and to others including my family.      

Speaking of Chainsaw one of the first shows we played on our national tour was in Olympia at the Capitol Theater.  We tried to play with Witchy Poo whenever we were up there because Slim Moon would always think of something unexpected to do and seemed to appreciate it when we were the only ones laughing.

After we arrived during sound check my Stratocaster died.  I didn’t know it had active pick ups that needed batteries.  When we figured it out Ronnie pulled all the strings off it, handed it to me, and just before running down the street to buy some nine volts asked me to take the screws out. 

I wasn’t really sure what screws he meant.  So in the nervous tension of the beginning of the tour I sat at dusk in the parking lot and removed every single goddamn screw from that guitar! 

When Ronnie came back he was as helpless as I was in front of the disconnected mess.  (Did I do something bad?)  I’ll never forget the voice of Chainsaw Records honcho Donna Dresch asking us what was up.  Donna had that guitar back together so fast it was like she waved a magic wand over it! 

[39] - Privilege (American Stonehenge)
Ronnie Pontiac: vocal and guitar
Tamra Spivey: bass
Erin McCarley: drums

Once we started playing Koo’s and other Food Not Bombs events we were drafted into kitchen duty.   That winter L.A. suffered a long and heavy rain storm.  The City of Santa Monica was known for maintaining decent shelters and homeless people from all across southern California headed for them.  But all the shelters were suddenly closed down and the homeless were left to fend for themselves.

Food Not Bombs had their eye on an abandoned hotel in Santa Monica called The Pink Flamingo.  You can only imagine how sleek the place must have looked when it opened in the fifties.  In the Seventies the lagoon pool must have been a hot spot after midnight.  But now it was a fenced off pile. 

Food Not Bombs had found a provision in the nether regions of the city charter or code that they believed gave them the legal right to turn an unused building like the Flamingo into a temporary shelter.  So they cut the chain link fence and the homeless streamed in.

People from all over town brought food; supplies were handed through the cut fence.  The cops surrounded the perimeter and did what they could to legally intimidate while in offices lawyers haggled. 

The fights that broke out inside, often between people with mental issues, or drug and alcohol problems, were dangerous and hard to manage.  The tension between the runaway punk kids and the borderline criminals and veterans of the street occupying the upper levels was tangible. 

Someone decided a band should be brought in to do an acoustic set to lift everyone’s spirits.  They called Lucid Nation.  So we found ourselves trudging through the cold night trying to avoid cops on a dirt back road where you could drop bodies. 

We pulled our guitars through the tear in the chain link fence and surveyed a scene like something out of a Mad Max movie.  Flashlights were shining down at us from balconies overhead where veterans of the street whistled and cat called.   

First we were ushered into the graffitied rooms of what had been a pool side suite.  It was packed with runaway kids.  One had already been wounded in battle with street scavengers, and everyone was expecting more trouble.

We were led down into a scene from Dante’s Inferno.  Zine tables and arguing scholars like sculptures: the leaders of the occupation, in a downstairs hall where, thanks to the vibrations caused by their voices and footsteps, the asbestos ceiling was crumbling like a slow and fine snow.  We didn’t play.

A few hours after we left, late in the night, the police stormed the place.  No one was badly injured but there were beatings and Food Not Bombs people went to jail.  Ronnie wrote this song soon after.  For three months it was Scour.com’s #2 most downloaded punk MP3 worldwide.

[40] - Redundant (American Stonehenge)
Tamra Spivey: vocal and guitar
Erin McCarley: drums
Ronnie Pontiac: bass

Even though I understood why Debbie left and I wanted her to be safe, some uncontrollable and primitive part of me felt betrayed.  She was someone I had looked up to.  One of my best friends had vanished completely from my life. 

Near the end, she would lapse into long silences.  A few times she simply stopped playing and sat with her head hung.  The drives home were excruciating and I dreaded the silence.

I never really became friends with Erin.  We all understood she was a temp and we all knew it dragged out too long.  But I really enjoyed hanging out with Erin and friends of hers like Ashley. 

Ashley was quiet; and very stylish in a Fifties or perhaps Forties way.  She would sit with her back on Erin’s kick drum at our shows so the drum wouldn’t move.  Fearlessly she stared down the audience: sometimes melancholy with unspoken knowledge, sometimes glaring as if to emphasize the message of an angry song.  Her rare smile would charm.

I don’t know if Ashley and I ever talked for more than a couple minutes.  I remember us all sitting quietly on the grass before a gig at The Library.  The silence was so comfortable.   

[41] - Food Chain (American Stonehenge)
Ronnie Pontiac: vocal and guitar
Tamra Spivey: bass and backing vocal
Erin McCarley: drums and screams

This song is Ronnie’s portrait of a certain type of parasite we encountered in every scene we played: riot grrrl, peace punk, hemp rallies, you could usually count on one of these creepss handling some illegal niche, pun intended. 

On our first national tour when we swung through L.A. a creep like that picked on me not realizing I was in the band.  I called him out from the stage.  It turned out he had tried to rape girls he offered rides home.

At the end of Food Chain, Ronnie’s Patti Smith inclinations run amok in the closing section where it becomes obvious a favorite record of his is Radio Ethiopia. 
[42] - Squeaky Steps (American Stonehenge)
Erin McCarley: vocals, guitar and drums
Tamra Spivey: bass
Ronnie Pontiac: guitar and backing vocal

Some of Erin’s lyrics are about her friendship with Joey Karam (long before he joined The Locust).  Back then Joey was at KUCI radio and he promoted great shows.  Thanks to him we got to open for bands like Jejune and Joan of Arc.

But these songs also capture Erin’s disillusionment with riot grrrl.  What do you expect when you throw a bunch of abuse survivors in a scene together and tell them to do what they want?  Abuse in/abuse out, it’s that simple, and a supposedly safe space is the perfect place for acting out. 

I think our mutual disillusionment with riot grrrl bonded us, despite our respect for the liberation it gave us we could see it was not the wildfire about to torch the prairie of worldwide girldom we had hoped for; it was going to burn out and leave few sparks.
[43] - Spins (American Stonehenge)
Tamra Spivey: vocal and guitar
Erin McCarley: drums
Ronnie Pontiac: bass

Know anybody so smart they never do anything?  They can give you a hundred reasons why anything anyone could do is hopeless, ridiculous, senseless, or dangerous.  I was wrestling with the idea that there was no future for me making music.  The one thing I didn’t want to do is see any more of my life go down the drain. 

It’s like vertigo when you contemplate that all your efforts will forever disappear.  Of course, they will anyway ultimately but I wasn’t ready for immediate invisibility.  It had been a terrible struggle for me to regain the courage to speak let alone the desire to be noticed.  They had been taken away from me by a violent criminal when I was in tenth grade as you’ll see in the next section of the Hundred Song March. 
[44] - Them Too (American Stonehenge)
Ronnie Pontiac: vocal and guitar
Tamra Spivey: bass
Erin McCarley: drums

Erin liked this song from The Stillness of Over so much she insisted we record it with her.  Ronnie tweaked the lyrics and arrangement a little.  I like his new line: “fuck you for enjoying falling on us who haven’t given up yet.”  The line “should I masturbate or mutilate?” was my contribution.  I’ve always admired him for having the balls to sing that cuz I never would. 

Playing this song in front of riot grrrls I thought it was about adolescent rebellion and the healthy human drive to criticize and transcend an oppressive status quo.  But now with Black Panthers at our shows I could see the song from the point of view of racism.  “I never was what you made me” took on a whole new meaning.

You see, the Panthers had marched into Koo’s one matinee.  OC punks confronted OG Panthers.  Sharrif Abdullah, who had been the minister of defense for the Panthers since the late Seventies, stood in front of the crowd and asked anyone who believed the Panthers were pro-violence and anti-white to raise a hand.  No hands were raised. 

Sharrif was a bit pissed off by this.  He took the time to look every one of us right in the eyes.  I watched the expression on his face change as he realized we had not snidely lied or chickened out.  “I want to thank you for giving me an experience that is one of the highlights of my life as a revolutionary,” he quietly said with a smile. 

Man, was I proud sporting my gang truce t-shirt hot off the Panther silkscreen!  You see, though I’m a blond cracker by appearance, I have the occasional nappy hair to prove that Victoria Spivey was a distant relation. 

Victoria was a black blues singer and the first woman to own an independent record label.  She was an old woman when she became one of the earliest to record Bob Dylan.  I knew nothing about her until I had several CDs to my credit, but listening to her gruff blues shout and salty lyrics I felt like I was coming home to the arms of the mother I never knew!

The Panthers gave The Stillness of Over a positive review in their newspaper.  The leader of the New African Vanguard contributed to a zine Sisi of Revolution Rising, Ronnie, and I were doing called Eracism.  The Panthers helped make thousands of copies which were distributed to gang truce centers and prisons all over the western United States.

[45] - That's How They Get You (American Stonehenge)
Tamra Spivey: vocal and guitar
Erin McCarley: drums
Ronnie Pontiac: bass

My friend and drummer Debbie gone, Erin shaky at best, no new drummer on the horizon, I contemplated the unsavory prospect of continuing my career as a musician.  The song lapses into silence after the repeated scream: “Why should I trust you or me?”  I was a few weeks from bedridden sick and feeling weaker by the day. 

People had been fucking with me going all the way back to mom.  Could I ever heal the damage?  Or would I keep repeating with my band the abandonment I first experienced with my family?  A few months later, Erin dumped us near the end of our national tour. 

But crazy Ronnie turned out to be constant and resourceful.  And despite the despair of the moment captured by this song the story of Lucid Nation was just getting started.  Amazing musicians, adventures, and songs waited just over the horizon.
[46] - Music Saved My Ass Again (American Stonehenge)
Ronnie Pontiac: vocal and guitar
Tamra Spivey: bass
Erin McCarley: drums
Ronnie’s song about finding renewal (and revenge) in music was a minor college radio hit that drew comparisons to the Raw Power record by Iggy and the Stooges. But any real punk will recognize the Fear power chords in the chorus.
[47] - Dumped (American Stonehenge)
Tamra Spivey: vocal and guitar
Erin McCarley: drums
Ronnie Pontiac: bass

Thurston Moore called us “smokin’ but we learned that without the certification of the right label and publicist, invisibility constantly threatens. In fact, a few years later when our Tacoma Ballet CD hit #1 on national college radio no one knew because we didn’t hire a publicist. How could we? We didn’t know about it ourselves until months later!

Riot grrrl had been hip and it was easy for us to get write ups but peace punk was not and what little media attention we had was gone. In the back of my mind when I wrote this song were thoughts of all the people who had said they were friends, the writers who had praised me, the DJs who had played me, they were all gone.

Later I got a letter from a girl who told me the song saved her life when she was feeling suicidal after being dumped. Since then I’ve gotten other letters like that, they are a big reason why I keep making music.

I think this is my best guitar solo; it’s actually three combined solos, check out the Hammond organ-like overtones I got!

[48] - Cyclical Insomnia (American Stonehenge)
Ronnie Pontiac: vocal and guitar
Tamra Spivey: bass
Erin McCarley: drums

“What could be more innocent than thirsting for innocence?”
“Does your windshield make a TV out of everything you see?”
“Are you all safe and warm in your emotional aquarium?”
“How do you have the demons removed other people forced on you?”
Those four questions tell a story that is quite chilling.

To end it Ronnie skids out in a lyrical ramble about a switch he wants to flip to change the world back (accompanied by a blatantly psychedelic blend of guitar destruction and acoustic pickery).

[49] - I Beat The Smart Kids (American Stonehenge)
Erin McCarley: vocals and guitar
Ronnie Pontiac: dulcimer echo

Near the end of our national tour Erin left Lucid Nation. Our last show together was at The Black Cat in Washington D.C. on Father’s Day, a show that culminated when Erin and Free Verse confronted Ronnie for not moving enough of the gear (even though he was road managing the whole tour).

I was pissed that Erin decided to fly home the next day, sure, but I understood. All I had to do was think back to the night we opened for Hazel at the Showcase Theater a couple years earlier. Erin had to sneak out her window to play drums at the gig; she was sixteen years old and grounded. Her tour of duty with us was epic for a kid who had just turned eighteen when it ended.

[50] - Dad (live on KSPC) (American Stonehenge)
Tamra Spivey: vocal and guitar
Erin McCarley: drums

Ronnie Pontiac: bass

We were invited to play this show at KSPC, a great alternative station at Claremont College, as an afternoon warm up to opening for Tribe 8 that night.  This version of Dad shows off the different feel Erin brought to the song, and the new hostility I brought to singing it.

It’s not like I never played the solo before.  The song was just so new to me!  Actually we lived so far from each other when we met half way for rehearsal it meant an hour drive to the LBC and a room in an industrial park a couple blocks from a refinery.  Consequently, we didn’t rehearse much.
[51] - Escapabilities (outtake) (American Stonehenge)
Erin McCarley: vocal and guitar
Tamra Spivey: drums and vocal
Ronnie Pontiac: bass

Erin’s girl power anthem inspired me to try drumming.  Unfortunately I could never get both arms working so I had to do an unintentional Tommy Lee pointing thing with my left stick!  

We left Erin at the hotel next to the airport in Jersey and drove through the tunnel into New York City on our way to our meeting with Tia Sprocket, then playing with Luscious Jackson.  We were on the threshold of a third new world for Lucid Nation to explore.

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